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Skin Lump at Injection Site
Started by Jeannette
Posted: April 9, 2008
Is anyone familiar with this side effect from subcutaneous injections? I have been on 1st Lovenox for 1 week and then Fragmin for past 3 weeks, and am injecting myself in my stomach. I noticed after one bad bruise, a small, round, hard lump formed under the skin. It is tender to the touch, and has not gone away after a couple weeks. Then yesterday I got a bad bruise after an injection in another site, and now I have a 2nd lump in this new location. Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a normal side effect? Do you know if they go away? Compared to my DVT/ PE symptoms, this isn't a huge concern (LOL), but am just wondering if anyone else has experienced this or knows how to prevent? Thanks to all.
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Re: Skin Lump at Injection Site
Reply #1 by Crystal
Posted: April 9, 2008 at 14:56
I was actually just allowed to go back to BC - and am taking the Depo SubQ shot. When I went appx 3 weeks ago, I have had the exact same symptoms as you. It has since gone away. I am guessing the stomach muscles are just reacting, and the sorness and bump will eventually go away.

I dont really know how to prevent - but you are not the only one!

Crystal
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Reply #2 by Diane
Posted: April 9, 2008 at 15:27
Crystal, are you the same Crystal from Louisiana who is on the MTS forum? If so, what happened that you are back on blood thinners after all these years. What is BC?
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Reply #3 by Crystal
Posted: April 9, 2008 at 19:10
Hey Diane, It is me! BC is Birth Control. Since my hemotologist did all the blood checks and we have determined that I "Only" have MT and no blood disorders, I can get back onto a low dose, progestrin (sp?) only BC.

That is the shot I took in the stomach, not blood thinners - no worries!

Crystal
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Reply #4 by Diane
Posted: April 10, 2008
Oh, good, I'm glad you're still doing well, Crystal.

I think if our stents are working well we do fall into a different category than those with multiple DVT's, those with clotting disorders, and even those with idiopathic DVT (unknown cause). Not that we feel lucky about dealing with these stents all our lives, but it could be worse than having May-Thurner Syndrome.

By the way did you read what Chad posted about what his colleagues (interventional radiologists) have to say about stent failure? I posted it on our MTS forum. That was the first solid bit of information I've ever read about stent failure and what can be done if it happens to us. Now I'm wondering if we should all have a vascular surgeon who is up on this current information. I'm going to ask mine next time I see him in May.

Also did you read the story by the woman who was misdiagnosed for 33 years and only recently learned she has MTS.

Take care,
Diane
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Reply #5 by Sharon
Posted: April 10, 2008 at 06:29
Jeanette--

Here are a couple of peices of info you may not have, and one to prevent the bumps. First, the bumps are likely hematomas--nothing to worry about really, just blood leaking under the skin and making a bump. Happens sometimes from IV's when the blood leaks from the vein under the skin. They can take a couple of weeks for you body to absorb and can be painful, but not always. If you are in good shape and don't have a lot of fat to inject into, that can also affect the injection site--only advantage of fat! LOL! Even tho we are suposed to squeeze up a roll of fat to inject into--try not to squeeze to hard. The main thing is NOT to RUB the injection site. Bcs this is anticoagulant, rubbing will cause more bleeding under the skin. Just lightly--like a feather, dab the site w/ the alcohol swab after injecting.

Another pointer is to make sure that you inject at least 2 inches (4cm) away from your belly button. I have no idea what the reason is for that, just know it was one of the instructions I was given and when I've accidentally injected closer, I have more bruising. Botom line is that we are going toget a few bruises--maybe every 4th shot in my case it seems like and when rotating sites, I find that some areas bruise (and hurt) more than others.

So there you have it--the extent of my knowledge on injecting our anitcoagulant. Happy shooting up! We don't even get high from this stuff--no fun at all!
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Reply #6 by Jackie
Posted: April 11, 2008 at 04:12
HI- I was on Lvenox injections while in the hospital and a few days post-hospital until my INR was therapeutic. What Jeanette said is exactly true- they are hematomas ( I had many) and they will go away!
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Reply #7 by janinerenee
Posted: April 12, 2008 at 15:03
I had a small bruise from an injection site. Later on that week the bruise got MUCH larger and made a hard knot type hematoma, by the weekend it hurt pretty bad just to bend down. It also was warm to the touch. I did show it to the Dr the next week and he put me on a short course of anti-biotics just to be on the safe side. It's been about 3 weeks and the redness has subsided alot, butI still have the hematomas knot. All is welll.
take care
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Reply #8 by Sharon
Posted: April 13, 2008 at 05:51
Good point--heat and redness indicate infection. Gotta watch for those apart from the hematomas.
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Reply #9 by Joe REganato
Posted: June 18, 2008 at 14:31
Has any one tried Ice preparation for the injection. Im probably doint something wrong, but here it is. Before I do the injection I ice down the site... Not too much! Prep the site with alchol, do the injection, wipe again with alchol, then with an ice cube, rub the site again... Today was my first try at this method... Will keep you informed...
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Reply #10 by Janine Renee
Posted: June 18, 2008 at 16:11
I will watch for your response Joe. My belly looks like I have been shot at...lol The site I had the problem with In March...It is still dicolored, I guess it will stay like that as a scar. Some days you can barely see the needle stick, just a red dot and other days Iam all bruised up..
thanks for in info

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Reply #11 by Sharon
Posted: June 19, 2008 at 08:02
Janine Renee--

I think your dosage is a bit high, but don't blame them w/ your propensity to clot, so you may continue to bruise. However, in case no one told you these things:

--Do not rub the spot after your shot, it will cause a bruise. Barely dab the site w/ your alcohol--no pressure on the site.
--When you take your shot, gently pinch up a roll of fat. (I tell all my friends that this roll is medically indicated now, I cannot get ris of it). Do not pinch it hard--gently.
--Stay at least 2 inches awayf rom your belly button--navel.
--Do not stab at the shot. Place the needle close to the skin and then slide it into the injection site.
--Be sure the bubble is always the last thing to go in to prevent bleeding or leakage.
--Do not inject into muscle.
--AGAIN, DO NOT RUB the injection site. Dab lightly w/ alcohol only once or twice.
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Reply #12 by Sarah
Posted: June 19, 2008 at 16:22
Yes I have the same thing all over my belly. It is very ugly. But yes they do go away.
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Reply #13 by Janine Renee
Posted: June 19, 2008 at 18:14
Sharon
Thanks for all the info! I did not know about the navel area. I never did get right on it, but close. I was told to take on the right one day, then left next day..etc..
I know in the hospital with Luvonon they did counter clock wise direction...But does Arixtra stay pretty much close to the below the waist? I know about the pinch..I have eneough to pinch also..lol No prob there. I will confess Sharon that I was NOTT just sliding into the injection site! That maybe what my major prob is. I would turn my head and sorta throw it in...:) Trying to get rid of it quick.
Again, Thanks for all the info. My dr is on vacation this week, but look forward to hearing from him cause Iam still having alot of pain. Hopefully it gets better soonnnnn, but I know something just does not feel right.
Take care and good luck to ya'll

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Reply #14 by Joe Reganato
Posted: June 19, 2008 at 18:51
Day 2 of the ice method... So far so good... BTW when I ice the injection site, after the shot... I am sliding an ice cube on the skin. Not really rubbing... The shots now leave a mark about 1/8 of an inch as oppose to maybe 1/2 inch mark.... Very tiny... So far no signs of infection (heat or redness) and the lumpiness of the shot area also seems to be better...

Two things that I also think help... The pinch of the skin is from at least a two inch grab of skin (wide) and not a lot of preasure... I slide the needle in (no jab) and inject slow and steady... Hope this helps...

I am liberal with the alchol swabing but gentle... No hard pressing...
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Reply #15 by Janine Renee
Posted: June 19, 2008 at 19:27
Sharon
Thanks for all the info! I did not know about the navel area. I never did get right on it, but close. I was told to take on the right one day, then left next day..etc..
I know in the hospital with Luvonon they did counter clock wise direction...But does Arixtra stay pretty much close to the below the waist? I know about the pinch..I have eneough to pinch also..lol No prob there. I will confess Sharon that I was NOTT just sliding into the injection site! That maybe what my major prob is. I would turn my head and sorta throw it in...:) Trying to get rid of it quick.
Again, Thanks for all the info. My dr is on vacation this week, but look forward to hearing from him cause Iam still having alot of pain. Hopefully it gets better soonnnnn, but I know something just does not feel right.
Take care and good luck to ya'll

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Reply #16 by Joe REganato
Posted: June 21, 2008 at 16:30
Day 3 of the ICE cube method... I actually gave myself an injection with NO mark, and NO puffiness under the skin...

I did the ice method as described above... I also did something different... Instead of sitting UP during the injection. I layed back... reclinned (not flat)... so my stomach was not pushing on the skin.... I think that helped....

Also, I think it was my most smoothest stick, easy entry, no shaking... and a reasonable injsction speed... skin was puckered up gently...

After the stick, about an hr, I could not find any mark... And this morning nothing again... I will be trying again tomorrow... stay tunned...


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Reply #17 by Sharon
Posted: June 23, 2008 at 15:40
Joe--

You may be onto something for those who tend to blreed into their injection sites and have regular hematomas! The sliding the needle in helps a great deal as well. I was told not to ice when I had my DVT bcs ice promotes clotting--so your theory is a valid one to stop the bleeding into the sites--especially for people like Janinerenee who are on higher doses. We just must never put ice on a site we believe may have a DVT.
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Reply #18 by Joe Reganato
Posted: June 24, 2008 at 20:07
Last post for ice cube method.... The last injection left the typical 1/8 inch spot... no lump or tenderness .. No spreading of blood into yellowing....

Frankly I think the ice helps but there are many factors that determine the final outcome... (stick, nerves, pinch of skin, reclining when injecting)... If I had to do this all the time I would continue with ice...

AND by all means, this is ONLY for the injection site... NOT your legs or areas where clots may reside... Thanks Sharon!

Cheers !
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Reply #19 by Janine Renee
Posted: July 1, 2008 at 16:42
I must say that I have been putting ice when I finish my injection and my belly is looking a whole lot better!!!
Thanks!!! Iam still having a bit of pain in my leg considering my last ultrasound on May 1st was that my
com femoral was almost tottaly occluded from groin to ankle.
I feel that I should be getting better and not feeling worse. I have trouble even making thru the grocery store...
I cannot wait to get to the car and just drop...lol
I will have an ultrasound in the AM to see what is going on in my crazy leg. I finally got appproved for help with my Arixtra injections...YIP PEEEE I do not have prescription coverage and was going crazy and crying and crying wondering what I would do, since I cannot take Coumadin...
THANK GOD it all came thru... Hopefully they are working!
We will find out tomorrow.
Take care and thanks again to all for the info..and prayers.

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