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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #100 by Char
Posted: December 7, 2008 at 20:08
I have not taken Natto without or with Warfarin, there have been a few people at this site reporting taking it with Warfarin. Some Coumadin Clinics will work with individuals taking Natto or Fish oil capsules while on Warfarin to reduce the dose of Warfarin. The last week I was on Warfarin I was told about some patients taking Fish oil caps with the Warfarin. Therefore they were on somewhat of a lower dose of Warfarin, I would have been interested, I avoided Fish oil caps while on Warfarin, now taking it daily. It is easier to buy than Natto.
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #101 by Nancy
Posted: January 4, 2009 at 20:52
Does anyone know if Nattokinase can be taken if you have a Thyroid condition?
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #102 by Jackie
Posted: January 8, 2009 at 22:14
Nancy - I have taken Nattokinase for over 6 years. I also am hypothyroid and use Armour thyroid. I've had no problems with the NK.
People on warfarin can take NK if they are supervised by their physician. Natto refers to the cheese-like soybean curd; nattokinase is the enzyme that has the fibrinolytic properties that helps prevent clot formation. Both contain the enzyme,but the natto food also contains a relatively high amount of vitamin K so you don't want to add that if you are concerned with clotting. If you have a clotting problem, then you must use a reliable, purified NK enzyme product. I highly recommend the NZymeCeutical website for information and their product. That's what I take.




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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #103 by Nancy
Posted: January 10, 2009 at 20:15
Jackie-Thanks for the info. I am no longer taking Warifin due to heavy menstral flow. I am taking Fibrovan for fibroids. It containes nattokinase and so far I am loving it. The more I read about the natto, the more I like it. My bleeding has stopped and I feel much better with more energy. I am under a doctors care, just seeing him this past week. I see him again in 6 months and hope that he doesn't have to put me back on the blood thinners. He doesn't know that I am taking the Fibrovan. I am hoping for positive results next time I have a blood test. I am going to do everything that I can to stay off the Warifin.
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #104 by arthur
Posted: January 27, 2009 at 02:07
I read on another site that someone under their Dr's supervision was able to reduce their high platelet counts with NK, and being monitored. The condition is called Essential Thrombocytosis.

Is anyone else out there know of someone with this condition, or has the same medical issue & know of the NK for this.
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #105 by Rose
Posted: January 29, 2009 at 11:51
Nattokinase Complex from Solgar is a "superior product." I have tried other Nattokinase brands, but they easily fall short. This is the only one of its kind with CoQ10 and other ingredients which give it a synergistic effect unlike any other.


http://allnutri.com/nattokinase.aspx

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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #106 by Amy
Posted: March 6, 2009 at 05:57
This is all very interesting... I'm considering nattokinase as I just found out that I am heterozygous for FVL, though have not had clotting issues to date. Any more recent updates from those of you who have tried it out for a while?
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #107 by Shana
Posted: March 23, 2009 at 17:49
I have been taking NK (without the K) for about a year now in conjunction with my Coumadin, and no problems. I take three a day, 100mg each, 8 hours apart. I don't know if it is helping with anything, but I do not have any leg swelling or pain since my DVT.

Also, my doctor is aware of it, and also has other patients taking it.


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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #108 by Char
Posted: March 23, 2009 at 17:54
My Hematologist says not to take Natto, that being said, Shana were do you buy your Natto? LOL
How is Natto helping your INR?
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #109 by Di
Posted: November 3, 2009 at 21:04
I was prescribed Nattokinase- 6,000Fu a day due to a non-healing ankle
ulcer resulting from a condition called Livedovasculatrophy. I was
told the filbrin was too thick and taking natto would help thin it
along with a baby aspirin daily. The 2 year leg ulcer did finally heal
after taking the Nattokinase in just 2-3 months, but now 2 years later
I am having hypothyroidism and have been trying to regulate the
thyroid levels now for the last 9 months thru continuous blood testing
and different levels of synthroid medicine.
I am concerned about taking natto now due to recently having read that
soy can cause thyroid damage and even thyroid cancer. The
endocrinologists did find a nodule on the thyroid and performed a
biopsy but the biopsy came back inconclusive. I have stopped taking
the Nattokinase and hope the ulcer does not return. Does anyone else
have any info. regarding the connection to soy and thyroid damage? Any
similar situations out there?
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #110 by Jeremy
Posted: November 13, 2009 at 06:35
I have read with interest the commentary regarding Nattokinase. I have worked in Japan over the last 2 years developing food products and came across Nattokinase. The general populus of Japan understand the properties of Natto well, most consume it for breakfast each day. My interest was to establish if the enzyme could be utilised within foods. i.e. yoghurts, which would ostensibly transfer the properties of Natto into a food type more conducive to the western palate. Certainly can be, but once again the proving of the claims is the issue. The company that owns the patent on Nattokinasse is progressing with medical bodies in the EU to establish, through medical trials, the claims of dissolving clots. May take a few years but I do believe that in the not to distant future Nattokinase may well become main stream medicine. Just for info!
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Reply #111 by Diana
Posted: December 30, 2009 at 22:35
Can anyone tell me what has happened to the N-ZimeCeuticals website- I can't seem to get on to it. I would like to purchase nattokinase online from the original Doctor that developed it and wonder how you go about doing this. Does anyone know?
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #112 by pamela
Posted: January 2, 2010 at 19:09
The N-Zyme site is gone, and two other posts should be avoided- "Dazed" and "Rose"
posted links to the version with vitamin K2 still in it.

Sharon's original link still works, as does the other, www.vitacost.com, which has the
allergy resource group, etc. Was following up as I was thinking of it myself.


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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #113 by Erhard
Posted: January 26, 2010 at 02:58
Hello Shana,

What ever happened to your tests and the clots? I too am taking now somewhat large doses of Nattokinase because of heart trouble and very, very cold feet. Please let us know
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #114 by pamela
Posted: January 27, 2010 at 01:28
Sharon (& others)

I have a doc appt next Mon for testing, and to discuss my doc's request for another 6
months on warfarin. I would so like to bring the medical articles to my doc to ask about
natto even if I need to wait for a response from him. Could you point me to the
abstracts or articles that your doc found helpful? I'd be ever so grateful... email (minus
spaces) pamela @ sh ark-med ia.com

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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #115 by Christine
Posted: April 18, 2010 at 10:21
Hi, has anybody got any up to date information regarding the efficacy of Nattokinase.

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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #116 by Penny
Posted: July 14, 2010 at 02:04
I have been diagnosed with Antithrombin 111 Deficiency, I havent had any probs yet and the Dr put me on to asprin but it made me very sick so I had to stop taking it, then I came accross Nattokinase and this blog which has been very informative! I am going to start taking it but I'm in Australia and it seems hard to get over here does anyone know where to get it and the best type to get?
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #117 by Penny
Posted: August 16, 2010 at 10:29
I see not much is happening here anymore but I thought I would post this anyway I have just been reading about Bulouke/Lumbrokinase , there seems to be more testing done on this one and it looke very interesting anyone heard of it? heres an artical on it
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+anti-inflammatory+and+antiplatelet+effects+of+Boluoke...-a0206620308
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #118 by Tom in Connecticut
Posted: August 16, 2010 at 13:22
Bulouke/Lumbrokinase serves as an anti-platelet much like asprin, motrin, it is not meant to affect clotting proteins which affect venous clots (DVT/PE).

Everyone's own body naturually produces Urokinase which is used to break down clots. Of course, depending on the severity of the clot it may not completely dissolve it. Also, some pregnant women have a condition known as plasminogen activator inhibitor (PAI1 or PAI2) which prevents the body from producing Urokinase.
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Re: Nattokinase
Reply #119 by Ronan
Posted: August 24, 2010
Suffered bilateral PE Oct 2009. No DVT found. Thrombophillia testing revealed I'm heterozygous for FvLeiden and prothrombin gene mutation. Doc recommends life long wafarin regime.

Not keen on permanent waferin. I do a lot of sport including martial arts, skiing & horse riding.

Feeling fit & healthy although I regularly do longhaul flights.

Is taking Nattokinase a realistic alternative preventative to waferin. Informed views would be greatly appreciated!




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